how would you prefer your first introduction to submission

[Sir Lanceloth]

It seemed to me that the poster was asking how to "introduce" the subject into the relationship.

oops it seems i forgot to answer on that. What i wanted with this thread was to get ideas hot to avoid the pitfalls just after introducing the desire. I presume what you meant by introducing a subject into a relationship is based on the more practical side (tie this knot here etc ) and if thats the case then you are partially right. I also want to know what the more experienced today think would have been the best introduction to bdsm. This introduction does not have to be sex, i have thought of tying my gf up, and serving her dessert just to show her that it isnt all about sex.

I am not a slave in the 'real world', so calling someone master feels false to me. 'Sir' is simply a term of respect - perhaps she would find that easier?

Thanks, currently we have decided to call each other by name, that way we also try to avoid falling into any stereotypes. Not much fun being forced to follow a role that isnt what you want to do. I find it hard to find any good porn out there, its all about pain, torture, rape etc. So instead i have decided to only take the elements i like, and use them in my own way.